VATICAN CITY (VATICAN CITY)
CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) [Toronto, Canada]
October 20, 2025
Canadian Gemma Hickey said Leo listened to abuse survivors with empathy
Pope Leo XIV met with survivors of sexual abuse by Catholic clergy for the first time on Monday, participants said, days after the Vatican’s child protection commission accused senior church leaders of being too slow to help victims.
Leo held a meeting with Ending Clergy Abuse, an international coalition of survivors, the group said. The encounter, which included six abuse victims, lasted about an hour and was “a significant moment of dialogue,” they said.
The 1.4-billion-member church has been shaken for decades by scandals across the world involving abuse and cover-up, damaging its credibility and costing it hundreds of millions of dollars in settlements.
An unusually critical report from the Vatican’s own child protection commission, issued on Thursday, faulted senior bishops for not providing information to victims about how their reports of abuse were being handled, or whether negligent bishops had been sanctioned.
‘A big step for us’
Gemma Hickey, a Canadian survivor who took part in Monday’s meeting, said Leo met with the victims in his office at the Vatican’s apostolic palace, took pictures with them and listened carefully.
“Pope Leo is very warm, he listened,” said Hickey. “We told him that we come as bridge-builders, ready to walk together toward truth, justice and healing.”
Leo, the first pope from the U.S. was elected on May 8 to replace the late Pope Francis. Survivors said he told them he was still coming to grips with the enormity of the church’s scandals.
“I left the meeting with hope,” added Janet Aguti, a Ugandan survivor who was also at the meeting. “It is a big step for us.”
Leo, the former Cardinal Robert Prevost, is known to have met with survivors earlier in his career, when he was a missionary and bishop in Peru.
Meeting participants said they asked Leo to create a global zero tolerance policy for priests accused of abuse, something survivors have pushed for.
Timothy Law, an Ending Clergy Abuse co-founder, said he mentioned to Leo that the U.S. bishops have a zero tolerance law, which was enacted in 2002 after extensive reporting on abuse scandals in Boston.
“Why can’t we make it universal?” Law said he asked the pope.
Francis, who died in April, made addressing abuse by clergy a priority of his 12-year papacy, with mixed results
The late pope met with abuse victims many times, often during his foreign trips.
Read the recent Vatican commission report on sex abuse.