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Grant Gallicho
Yesterday social media lit up with news accounts claiming Archbishop Robert Carlson of St. Louis had told victims attorney Jeff Anderson that when he was an auxiliary bishop in St. Paul and Minneapolis, he didn’t know that it was illegal for an adult to have sexual contact with a child. Here’s how one of those stories began:
Archbishop Robert J. Carlson claimed to be uncertain that he knew sexual abuse of a child by a priest constituted a crime when he was auxiliary bishop in the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis, according to a deposition released Monday (June 9).
During the deposition taken last month, attorney Jeff Anderson asked Carlson whether he knew it was a crime for an adult to engage in sex with a child.
“I’m not sure whether I knew it was a crime or not,” Carlson replied. “I understand today it’s a crime.”
Today the Archdiocese of St. Louis defended Carlson with a long press release accusing Anderson, and by extension news accounts that cited him, of “strategically” taking Carlson’s testimony “out of context.” According to the archdiocese, “in the full transcript of Archbishop Carlson’s deposition, the actual exchange between Archbishop Carlson and Plaintiff’s counsel is quite different from what is being widely reported in the media.” The statement continues: “What Plaintiff’s counsel has failed to point out to the media is that Mr. Goldberg himself noted at this point in the deposition ‘you’re talking about mandatory reporting?’ When the Archbishop said ‘I’m not sure whether I knew it was a crime or not,’ he was simply referring to the fact that he did not know the year that clergy became mandatory reporters of suspected child abuse (pgs. 108-109).” In other words, Carlson was talking about mandatory-reporting laws, not laws against adults having sex with minors. …
So how did so many members of the media get this wrong? How could they so badly misread the testimony of Archbishop Carlson, and in the process besmirch his good name? Probably because they can read. Let’s have a look at that “full transcript.”
The archdiocese says that the “actual exchange” started with Anderson asking Carlson about mandatory-reporting laws. And that’s not false. But what follows could not be clearer. Carlson is asked whether throughout his priesthood he knew that it was illegal for an adult to have sex with children, and he said he wasn’t sure–but that he understood that now. Roll tape:
Q. Well, mandatory reporting laws went into effect across the nation in 1973, Archbishop.
MR. GOLDBERG: I’m going to object to the form of that question.
MR. ANDERSON: Let me finish the question.
MR. GOLDBERG: Go ahead. I’m sorry.
Q. (By Mr. Anderson) And you knew at all times, while a priest, having been ordained in 1970, it was a crime for an adult to engage in sex with a kid. You knew that, right?
MR. GOLDBERG: I’m going to object to the form of that question now. You’re talking about mandatory reporting.
MR. ANDERSON: Okay. I’ll — if you don’t like the question, I’ll ask another question.
MR. GOLDBERG: Well, you’ve asked a conjunctive question. One doesn’t —
MR. ANDERSON: Objection heard. I’ll ask another question. Okay?
MR. GOLDBERG: Go ahead.
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